William Shatner has a new web series called Brown Bag Wine Tasting where he invites his famous friends to chat about their passions as they drink and describe an anonymous bottle of wine. This latest episode is notable because the erstwhile Captain Kirk sits down with the erstwhile Wesley Crusher (a.k.a. actor Wil Wheaton) to chat not so much about their experiences on Star Trek, but mostly about Wheaton’s love of brewing beer. They also touch on video games and extraterrestrial life, but beer is definitely the main topic here. Shatner even goes so far as to have Wheaton describe the wine in beer terms, which seems fairly unhelpful.

However, Shatner does raise the important question: How do you know you aren’t secretly playing multiplayer video games with Nazis?